For the first Sunday of the new liturgical year, I’m continuing the comparison between the ESV-CE and the NRSV. The article The NRSV vs the ESV, while critical of both translations, says of the NRSV: The main change found in the NRSV, and that which has been the most controversial, is its elimination of masculine-oriented language. The language of the 1971 RSV has been updated in more places than the ESV; and I am not only speaking of inclusive language. In order to say the ESV or NRSV is better, one should provide some examples. Just an interesting fact, but the NRSV also has a … ESV-CE vs NRSV: 33rd Sunday in OT Welcome to the first in a comparison series between the ESV-CE and the NRSV. After several months, I haven’t looked back. Reply. Right now, I like the TNIV over the NET, HCSB, and ESV. Today, I’ve chosen the first reading from Isaiah. The TNIV has corrected most of the mistranslations of the NIV. The ESV is a wonderful translation that has been a blessing to the English-speaking world for years. The ESV is a great translation. It doesn't make outrageous claims in its Preface as the ESV does. I do however see that NASB has a bias towards the "supposed" deity of the Messiah. As a version along the same line, the ESV is a better choice than the NASB. Interesting that the ESV uses the word, 'women' in this verse. Genesis 3:16 ESV "contrary" should read "for" as per NRSV. 2. Reader CattusDei recently requested a comparison of the two in the hope of choosing one of these translations for a One Bible, One Year (OBOY) challenge. It would seem to me, at least at face value, there is a discrepancy here w/ the ESV translation of Psalm 68:11: 11 The Lord gives the word; the women who announce the news are a great host: The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2016), Ps 68:11. The following is an excerpt from his chart showing only the rating out of 10 for the NRSV and the ESV. “fidelity” = esv 68.74% nasb 67.99% kjv 66.58% nkjv 65.21% csb 64.75% nrsv 60.51% net 53.94% niv 53.10% nlt 39.90% Those versions that ranked highest in “Readability” are more thought-for-thought translations, while those versions that ranked highest in … In 2001 Crossway released a new translation, the English Standard Version (ESV). However, to say that the ESV is therefore somehow tainted is a genetic fallacy. Besides the inclusive language junk, the NRSV is great. In order to show the relationship more clearly, I’ve also included seven other Bibles, including the ASV & KJV. I need to say first of all that I like the English Standard Version (ESV). 4.73K viewsDecember 19, 2018Debate, Objections, and ApologeticsVS 1 Draymon430 Posted June 15, 2018 NRSV vs ESV what is the difference and why does NRSV suck? The NCC authorized a full revision of the RSV in 1974, the work of the translation committee was completed and approved in May 1989 and published later that year as the NRSV. The NASB sounds more awkward in its rendering of: “all the things that were coming upon Him.” The ESV’s “ all that would happen to him” or the NRSV’s “ all that was to happen to him” flows better. The ESV came about in response to the National Council of Churches’ revision of the RSV, resulting in the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV). The chief difference: ESV is more conservative of the KJV-RSV tradition than is NRSV. The ESV is very close to the New American Standard Bible (NASB) in accuracy, and it flows better than the NASB. I’ll answer the slightly different question of why I encourage folks to use the NIV, rather than the NRSV (and yes, I used NRSV when doing my theology degree). I believe the NASB and the ESV are the two best among all that I have. New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) But now, irrespective of law, the righteousness of God has been disclosed, and is attested by the law and the prophets, the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ* for all who believe. It is a conservative response to the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV). So perhaps I should ask, what is it that RSV and NRSV both have but ESV does not have which make them painful to Wezlo's ears? Sunday, November 29th, 2020 — First Sunday of Advent (Year B) First Reading: Isaiah 63:16b-17, 64:1, 3-8 (The verse numbering above applies to both the ESV-CE and NRSV. Go! dcsj on October 3, 2019 at 12:30 pm. Why does it seem like so many evangelicals do not like the RSV (or NRSV), saying they are ‘liberal biased’? v. 4: The NRSV’s contemporary usage of “looking for” instead of “seek” is better. But NRSV has also removed the thee's and thou's, and is in fact a lot more different from RSV than ESV is. And of course I had to get out my pen and re-write a few passages (John 1:18, 2nd Peter 1:1, Titus 2:13, Jude 1:4, Revelation 1:8, with some others) to their proper grammatical structure along with wording provided by other manuscripts. The reason why the NRSV is stylistically superior to the ESV is because the translators devoted a lot more time and attention to the task than did the ESV translators. Elegance. Sat Mar 08, 06:09:00 PM The ESV, RSV, & NRSV Compared With all the discussion about the ESV, I’ve created a translation comparison that looks at how similar the ESV, NRSV, and RSV are to each other. The NRSV was the first major "inclusive-language" translation. Matthew 11:16-19 English Standard Version (ESV). The argument is Byzantine Vs Alexandrian Greek Text The Church didn't use or receive the Alexandrian Text, 1%< minority of manuscript evidence New versions are supported by this Alexandrian Text Type, NIV, NASB, ESV, NRSV, Etc You disregard this argument as if it dosent exist, smiles! In the OT, the ESV drops things like, "Now it came to pass" - Ruth 1:1 etc, numerous times. The ESV is more consistent than the ESV. In some cases the ESV has made a radical departure from the KJV/NKJV/NASB. Accuracy. Matthew 23:13 ESV "would enter" should read "going in" as per NRSV John 1:9 ESV "gives light to" should read "enlightens" as per NRSV 2 Corinthians 2:20 ESV "hostility" should read "selfishness" as per NRSV It is in the NKJV, KJV and NASB. This is the last of this comparison series between the NASB, ESV and NRSV. ESV vs. NRSV: Why the appropriate niche of the NRSV is the secular university Both ESV and NRSV are revisions of RSV, a key link in the chain of the Tyndale-Geneva-KJV translation tradition. Most churches now use the ESV or the NIV (which I … A baptist pastor in … Overall, the New Revised Standard Version is a good English Bible translation, however, the fact that it is “gender-inclusive” prevents most Christians from buying and reading it. I left the ESV behind for the CSB. Baptist Joshua on YouTube Answered question December 19, 2018 2 Answers ActiveVotedNewestOldest 0 Baptist Joshua on YouTube206 Posted December 19, 2018 1 Comment I would go with […] The NASB brackets John 5:3b-4; the ESV footnotes those verses. For comparison: NASB: [waiting for the moving of the waters; 4 for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool and stirred up the water; whoever then first, after the stirring up of the water, stepped in was made well from whatever disease with which he was afflicted.] It is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to their playmates, I like the ESV in many … You have to wonder what else gets dropped, maybe something more important. 16 “But to what shall I compare this generation? Moreover, I would prefer using “who” instead of the outdated “whom.” 1) The NIV is easier to read for most normal people. The NRSV uses gender-neutral language, while the ESV does not. ESV vs. NRSV: which do you prefer (and why)? The NRSV is quite good as well. However, it was time for me to get a new Bible last year and I did something crazy. I couldn’t find a NRSV-CE that i liked, but i have my protestant version, and I really like the way it flows and the history of how they translated it is great. And Wezlo also called NRSV "almost painful to my ears". Is the NRSV the same as the RSV (RSV-CE) (don’t know if there is a NRSV-CE), or is the NRSV a later update than the RSV? After all, the ESV is a moderate revision (about 6% I believe) of the Revised Standard Version (RSV, 1952), which itself was done by very competent scholars. Hi Mark, surprised I hadn’t read this one before, but Alexander’s comment alerted me to it. ESV-CE vs. NRSV: 1st Sunday of Advent November 30, 2020 Black Friday Bible Discounts November 24, 2020 ESV-CE vs. NRSV: Solemnity of Christ the King November 22, 2020 I will explain the reason for my surprise. I am finding NASB to be pretty good. The purpose of this translation is to be more literal than the New International Version (NIV) – particularly the recent “gender neutral” edition – and to be more readable than the … 1 In the beginning when God created [] the heavens and the earth, 2 the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God [] swept over the face of the waters. Acts 2:22-23 ESV: v.22: Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs… ESV: English Standard Version, copyright 2001 Crossway Bibles, a division of Good News Publishers KJV : King James Version (Authorized Version), 1611, public domain. Second, with regard to the translation, there is also concern about the ESV being based upon the RSV, which is a translation with recognized liberal tendencies, not only in certain renderings, but even in the handling of the ancient texts and variants. 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